Mar. 3, 2007: Bud Talkinghorn & Security

Re: SCOC, Security Certificates, Maher Arar, Terrorists, CBC, Politicized Media

Three strikes and security is out

Talk about synergy. We have the Supreme Court disallowing indefinite detention of high risk terrorist suspects. The biographies of these suspects makes for interesting reading. Sprinkled amongst them are connections to various al-Qaeda affiliates in North Africa (e,g, Moroccans, Algerians, Egyptians). None are Canadian citizens, while most have visted or trained in Afghanistan. Following that court decision, up almost immediately was the opposition's voting down two more security measures. Now terrorist suspects who are thought to be within days of carrying out their attacks can no longer be detained and questioned without criminal charges being brought. Nor can material suspects to these plots be hauled in for questioning.

The case of indefinite detention without evidence given to suspects is a sad occurence. It smacks of a police state, but this measure is taken in the face of a hidden enemy. Al-Qaeda has planted sleeper cells throughout the Western world. Many of these sleepers have advanced educations and are invisible to all intents and purposes. A fairly recent al-Qaeda cell broken up in Pakistan contained a cardiologist, a teacher, and two professional engineers. They were only a week away from a horrendous plot to massacre hundreds. An insidious enemy with new tactics (think 9/11) must be dealt with differently. Especially as The Charter means we can't deport these people--another Supreme Court interpretation. [Brought to you by a mainly Liberal-larded appointment process -- FHTR]

The opposition's demand that the other security provisions be stricken was nothing but political opportunism. Both the NDP and the Liberals had to "whip" their caucuses to get the right vote numbers. Still one Liberal voted for the extension, and four others by not attending the vote, while Irwin Cotler, the former Justice Minister, abstained. He later told the press, "There was no need for this revision. It has never been abused in the years the laws were implemented. It is a necessary measure." However the majority saw the gains in the ever-growing Muslim voting bloc. Without going into elaboration, let's just say that many of that community harbour paranoid conspiracy theories. Also a huge amount of denial persists about what is being perpertrated in the name of their faith. Whatever party plays to that paranoia best gets their votes.

Stephen Harper said it succinctly after the vote. "This decision will come back to haunt the Liberals." I believe that will be true; especially should a major terrorist attack occur before an election. No mealy-mouthed spin doctoring will cover up their vote mongering over security. They proved that the combined leftist parties can hobble the Conservatives, but at what cost to Canada?

© Bud Talkinghorn--If Al-Qaeda could vote in Canada it would be hard for them to decide which left-wing party represent the greatest number of "useful fools". Probably the NDP. Unfortunately, they are perpetual losers in elections, so the Liberals would get them by default.


Related post: scroll down for: Mar. 1, 2007: Security: Domestic terror wins big -- "CSIS has identified over 50 terrorist groups operating on Canadian soil and over $256 million have been identified by FINTRAC in 2005/2006 as having possible links to terrorism."

frosthitstherhubarb.blogspot.com/2007/03/
mar-1-2007-security-domestic-terror.html


Court considers strict bail conditions of terror suspect , Andrew Duffy, CanWest, Ottawa Citizen, March 01, 2007

www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=
82b6421f-365d-4659-8886-46c2290a8db8&k=29511

OTTAWA - Accused al-Qaida terrorist Mohamed Harkat says his bail conditions are so strict he fears his release has also imprisoned his wife and mother-in-law, one of whom must be with him every minute of the day - even in public washrooms. [....]

On May 23, 2006, Federal Court Judge Eleanor Dawson, citing unnecessary government delays in Harkat's security certificate case, ordered him released. But she imposed some of the strictest conditions in Canadian history.

Under terms of his release, Harkat must wear an electronic monitoring device that allows authorities to track his movements and he must be in the company of his wife, Sophie, or mother-in-law, Pierrette Brunette, at all times.

He is allowed three, four-hour excursions each week that must be approved in advance by the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA). He is not allowed to leave Ottawa, nor visit the airport, train station, bus depot or any car rental agency. He is not allowed to use a computer or cellphone. His mail is searched and his phone is tapped by federal authorities. [....]

The Canadian Security Intelligence Service alleges Harkat travelled to Afghanistan in the early 1990s and developed a relationship with al-Qaida lieutenant Abu Zubayda.

I'm afraid most of us experience a failure to empathize ... but that's not nice ... and we must be nice useful fools ... and we have the courts to help ... somebody. Harkat could leave Canada but he has such influential supporters here that he'll do fine right here, whatever the majority of Canadians might want.



Related to Bud's next post: Disturbing reality buried
Fear of causing offence and wilful blindness will only end the day innocent Canadians die -- or How many would Behead PM Harper? How many Canadian Muslims, that is.

calsun.canoe.ca/News/Columnists/Corbella_Licia/
2007/02/18/3642930-sun.html

www.forumsvibe.com/elwoodpdowd/
viewtopic.php?p=16093&highlight=
&mforum=elwoodpdowd#16093


Muslim-Canadian attitudes: A most inconvenient truth

CBC recently commissioned Environics to do a survey of Muslim-Canadian and other Canadians' attitudes. On The National, CBC doled out their predictable multicultural Pollyanna-ish conclusions. "Look", it bannered, "Fully 73% of Muslims condemn the actions of the 17 Muslim-Canadian terrorist suspects." 73%, wow! What a strong majority! On their website, they trot out the words of some Muslim sociology prof, Haideh Moghissi, to baldly state, "That figure of 12% who thought mass murder of their fellow citizens was justified doesn't warrant attention." Oh, really? And the 15% who weren't sure? What are we to make of them? Your neighbour's family is mindlessly slaughtered, but 27% of the neighbourhood either applauds or is uncertain as to their feelings about it. Reason for deep concern or not?

Licia Corbella from The Calgary Sun was concerned, nay horrified, by these numbers. She wrote a column on it (Feb. 18, 2007). That 27% of respondents can't unequivocally see the sheer wickedness of this aborted plot is chilling information indeed. Even taking the margin of error into consideration on the humanitarian side, that still means a minimum of 47,000 Muslims are sympathizers with the terrorist suspects. It makes the citizens of the fictional prairie town in "The Little Mosque on the Prairie" sound not bigoted, but prudent. Periodically we have the reports of radical mosques in Toronto and Vancouver preaching jihad, to chew on. What the combined information shows is that, like similar polls in Britain and the Netherlands, there is naked hatred of Western standards of democracy and social equality. That much of this animosity is held by second generation Muslim-Canadians is doubly frightening. They are the invisible snakes in our multicultural New Jerusalem garden.

The omission of the negative side to this poll is typical of CBC. As with the old time Marxists, the facts make no impact. Even that the CBC headquarters was one of the targets of the terrorist suspects cannot shake their blindered view of our failed immigration policy. Only their success in social engineering could explain why they released these poll statistics in the first place. Ordinarily, any poll that exposes their failed ideological stance is buried. An example was the recent poll showing the Conservatives on a steep upward movement. Maybe they did report it, but not the day it came out. I never saw it and I was looking for it that day.

As for the supposed 73% who condemned terrorism, how many simply gave the answer that wouldn't mark them as religious psychopaths? This poll wasn't asking what their favourite cereal was. One can hope that these disturbing results are being absorbed by our lenient IRB and the present government. How many kissing cousins of Ahmed Ressam can we tolerate in our midst? Canadians, wake up and smell the cordite.

© Bud Talkinghorn


Related: The Toronto Star article referencing Maher Arar is no longer available: [Frost Hits the Rhubarb Aug. 28 - Sept. 3, 2007 -- Re: Arar ... Ex-consul grilled over what he knew, when, Sep1. 1, 2005]

However, it is available here:

Ex-consul grilled over what he knew, when
Last witness to testify at inquiry
Taxpayers to foot $8 million plus bill , by MICHELLE SHEPHARD, STAFF REPORTER - Toronto Star, Sept. 1, 2005

www.ymlp.com/pubarchive_show_mess
age_iframe.php?montrealmuslimnews+4913

Original link:

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thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=
1125526233255&call_pageid=968332188774&col=
968350116467&DPL=IvsNDS%2f7ChAX&tacodalogin=yes

[....] Portions of a censored government report, released at the inquiry only yesterday, make the claim that Arar told a consular official he was beaten with an electric cable while detained in Syria. That contradicts statements by the consul, Leo Martel, that he was never aware of the abuse.

The censored report was written by an unnamed government official about a conversation the official had on Feb. 8, 2004, with Martel, Canada's former consul in Damascus.

[....] Martel, the only Canadian official to meet Arar while he was in Syria, was the last witness to appear before the inquiry. Lawyers will present their public summary reports to the inquiry later this month, after which O'Connor will write an interim report. [....]

Even though the report concerned Arar's case, a government spokesperson said yesterday it had been censored on the grounds of privacy concerns, since Martel asserted the information concerned Nureddin. [....]

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