Dissembling & Misinforming? Ah, cut to the chase: "Islam - Why Muslims Lie" -- Ali Hindy, Guarantor and Friend

Update: this goes along with a post from previously today. I posted on Dr. Ali Hindy and Dr. Mohamed Elmasry's views and activities:

"Honour", Aly Hindy, CSIS, Lying, General Hillier, Elmasry, Anomaly, Restoring the Caliphate

Islam - Why Muslims Lie USS Neverdock, posted July 22, 2005 -- Trackback: javascript:HaloScanTB('112203614586866557'); -- via CCD

Why Muslims lie

I just listened to Shahina Siddiqui out of Winnipeg on the CBC Newsworld afternoon call-in show, there to answer questions about Islam.

Michael from Newfoundland asked why Islam is in conflict with or attacking countries such as India, Thailand, et cetera, not just the West. In fact, he mentioned that Islam seems to be at odds with all the other great religions.

Siddiqui answered Michael's question by stating that the Buddhist Thais attacked Muslims in the south so, implied (stated?) was that Muslims were retaliating. That is wrong. The Muslims were active in southern Thailand many, many years ago and Buddhists were not attacking them. Muslims were bloody even then, before most in the West thought much about them. I suspect we could argue about who stepped over the violence line first and go back centuries in the argument, but Siddiqui admitted no other perspective about which came first. She just misinformed.

As for India, Siddiqui responded to questions with Islam is "peaceful", the usual . . . . A historian told me that it is Islamists who have been attacking India and Indians, not the other way around for example, though Indians may retaliate. Nevertheless, Siddiqui baldly asserted the opposite. Here, too, I suspect another perspective is necessary.

Siddiqui was supposed to answer all callers' questions about Islam. Was she invited in as a reasonable, truthful representative? (See article on truth above.) Where was the balancing, opposing view that CBC should be presenting at the same time? Surely, such a peaceful Muslim spokesperson would welcome discussion since presentation of one perspective is hardly unbiased? Siddiqui could have admitted there are conflicting views; instead, her answers were presented as information.

This was uninformative, indeed misleading, to Canadians serious about learning more.

I thought about calling to ask about Islamic justification for honour killing, clitorectomy and a few other salient features of Islam, but I knew I would not get through or, if I did, I would be cut off quickly. That is our CBC-Pravda's method. I've seen/heard/watched it too often.

Is it time for CBC, Liberal Propaganda Organ, to commission a poll, in the same vein as a few others, telling us we love Islam, want Shariah . . . . . and a few more items to support their Librano$ masters? These polling companies never call me. I would enjoy explaining what I think. That is why, undoubtedly, I won't hear from them.

Ms. Siddiqui, I have read, heard, seen NOTHING of Islam that leads me to respect Islam, as it is practised.

CBC, stop trying to tell us that we should. When Muslims clean up Islam, particularly, the treatment of women in Islamic countries, not just in the West, and when the followers clean out their Islamists, then, CBC might invite a representative back to talk to the rest of us. Until then, stop wasting taxpayers' money with hogwash.

CBC supports this kind of "information" show to support Liberal vote buying, in my opinion. Wait until the lads turn on the CBC gay gaggle -- once they are successful in Canada . . . with the help of the likes of the CBC.

It's time to man the barricades for civilization. Is that too blunt? Too true?




Related: Kuwaiti gives statement Canadians Muslims failed to -- re Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood posted by David on 19:46:02 2005/07/25

Memri just released its translation of a Kuwaiti politician's plain and simple condemnation of the Muslim Brotherhood strand of Salafism responsible for Islamic terroris which for some reason most Canadian Muslim leaders are unable to bring themselves to repudiate.

Special Dispatch Series - No. 941
July 26, 2005 No.941

Former Kuwaiti Education Minister: All of Al-Qaida's Terrorism Started from the Ideology of the Muslim Brotherhood

Dr. Ahmad Al-Rab'i, former Kuwaiti minister of education and columnist for the Arabic London daily Al-Sharq Al-Awsat published an article titled "A Bit of Shame" on July 25, 2005. [. . . . ]

Anti-dhimmitude in Canada: no "boutique law"
May 16, 04

The news that Ontario will permit civil disputes such as divorce to be mediated under sharia or Islamic law is about the best idea since female foot-binding.

[. . . . ] But it has one common thread: patriarchy. In a will, a wife might get a quarter of the estate at the most. She cannot divorce her husband, but he can divorce her. She would get three months to a year of alimony, maximum. Note "alimony," as opposed to child support, because she won't get the kids if the husband wants them.

Opposite her sat Ali Hindy, a local imam. [. . . . ]

We can be sure Mr. Ali Hindy is an honourable man; look at his acquaintances, members of his mosque, the ones he supports

The Minister of Citizenship and Immigration and the Solicitor General of Canada (Applicants)
v.
Mohamed Zeki Mahjoub (Respondent)
Indexed as: Canada (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration)v.Mahjoub (F.C.)
Federal Court, Dawson J.--Toronto, May 10; Ottawa, July 30, 2003.

Citizenship and Immigration -- Exclusion and Removal -- Removal of Refugees -- Respondent, citizen of Egypt, Convention refugee since 1996 -- Detained in June 2000 as threat to national security -- Certificate filed by Ministers determining respondent inadmissible person under Immigration Act, s. 19(1), found reasonable -- Application for order under Immigration and Refugee Protection Act, s. 84(2) for release from detention -- First decision rendered under s. 84(2) -- Procedure to be followed in s. 84(2) application -- Test to be applied under s. 84(2) two-fold, not met herein -- Court not satisfied Mahjoub will not be removed from Canada within reasonable time -- Also not convinced release from detention will not pose danger to national security, to safety of any person.

This was an application for an order, pursuant to subsection 84(2) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act that Mr. Mahjoub should be released from detention. Mahjoub entered Canada in December 1995 and soon after, he was declared by the Immigration and Refugee Board to be a Convention refugee. According to the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS), Mahjoub was a high-ranking member of an Egyptian Islamic terrorist organization, the Vanguards of Conquest, a radical wing of the Egyptian Islamic Jihad or Al Jihad. . . . The Immigration and Refugee Board found Mahjoub to be inadmissible, based on the security certificate, and a deportation order was therefore issued. Mahjoub invoked subsection 84(2) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act that had come into effect on June 28, 2002. Subsection 84(2) allows a foreign national who is not removed from Canada within 120 days after a security certificate has been found to be reasonable to apply to be released from detention.

Held, the application should be dismissed. . . .

Dr. Hindy supported him.

[. . . . ] [37]Dr. Ali Hindy is a Canadian citizen who is a self-employed engineering consultant. Additionally, since 1997 he has been the Imam of the Salahaddin Mosque. Mr. Mahjoub's wife taught at the Mosque between 1997 to 1999 and he has known Mr. Mahjoub's wife since 1985. Mr. Mahjoub impresses him as a quiet, honest and decent person who would neither pose a flight risk nor a danger to the public. Dr. Ali Hindy is willing to act, in his personal capacity, as a surety in the amoun t of between $15,000 and $20,000. He would undertake to maintain constant contact with Mr. Mahjoub and his family. In Dr. Ali Hindy's view, because Mr. Mahjoub is a practising Muslim, sureties signed by Dr. Ali Hindy and other members of the community will weigh very heavily upon him and will bind Mr. Mahjoub's actions. Dr. Ali Hindy confirmed that he understands the obligations of surety and would act in accordance with those obligations.

[38]On cross-examination, Dr. Ali Hindy confirmed that he works long hours, particularly on the weekends, and is a busy person. He would, however, give priority to Mr. Mahjoub. He agreed that he knows Mr. Mahjoub as one of the people in the community, and knows Mr. Mahjoub's wife much better. He confirmed th at he does not know Mr. Mahjoub "that much". With respect to his opinion as to whether or not Mr. Mahjoub would pose a flight risk or be a danger to the public, Dr. Ali Hindy said that when he speaks to a person of the same religious background he can tell if this person is honest or if he has some problems, and the way this person is thinking. [. . . . ]

Some people have hindsight; Dr. Ali Hindy has foresight.

Dr. Ali Hindy is a supporter of Mohamed Harkat -- so he must be okay


More of Ali Hindy's friends: Mahmoud Jaballah. The Egyptian brought his family Canada in 1996 as refugees, . . . . The only thing he knows is that CSIS alleges he's a terrorist - a member of al-Jihad, an Egyptian Islamic extremist group that merged with Osama bin Ladin's al-Qaida organization in June, 2001. The agency believes he "has supported and will engage in terrorism."

[. . . . ] Mahmoud Jaballah. The Egyptian brought his family Canada in 1996 as refugees, . . . .

The only thing he knows is that CSIS alleges he's a terrorist - a member of al-Jihad, an Egyptian Islamic extremist group that merged with Osama bin Ladin's al-Qaida organization in June, 2001. The agency believes he "has supported and will engage in terrorism."

[. . . . ] The mosque and Islamic centre are longtime places of interest to CSIS, especially after it was disclosed that the Khadr family had worshipped there and that two principals of its school had been detained abroad. [. . . . ]

His [Hindy's] surveillance helped Jaballah get out of jail the first time, after the imam testified that he saw nothing suspicious in Jaballah's behaviour. Hindy even hired Jaballah after his release as principal of the mosque's school. [Is that a reason to trust him? Or Ali Hindy? ]

Last autumn, Hindy dropped something of a bombshell when he told CanWest New Service that Saudi Arabia usually funds the building of mosques and helps pay the salaries of most clerics in Canada through the Saudi-run World Muslim League.

[. . . . ] The study for the Canadian Foreign Policy Journal by national security expert Martin Rudner of Carleton University said Saudi money is being used to extend its brand of militant Islam to Canada and foster the spread of terrorism. [. . . . ]

Surely not. The "peaceful" ones? Who would have thought?

Squeak! That came from a woman.

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